Base Maps from 550 BC to Modern Day, all in UCS!

[Thande]

Originally Posted by Iori

That, or do what I did and Drag & Drop.

Jeesh, I didn't think they'd be that stupid so I didn't even think to try it.

Incidentally you occasionally come across sites - Amazon does this with their previews inside books - where Print Screen doesn't work because they've been clever (the inside of the window comes up blank). But only slightly clever. If you open the window in the background, then open a second window of some other programme and drag it down to the bottom of the screen so it doesn't obscure the browser window but is still the one selected, THEN print screen, it works.

[VT45]

Originally Posted by area11

A while ago Thande posted a map showing various nations West African outposts I've taken it and replaced the British, Brandenburger, Danish joint controlled area normally used.

Attachment 101498

Is that supposed to be 1815? If so, Maine should be coloured as a state. It was never a territory as you've shown it. Before being admitted to the Union in its own right in 1820, it was a part of Massachusetts.

[Iori]

Originally Posted by Thande

Jeesh, I didn't think they'd be that stupid so I didn't even think to try it.

I actually very raely come across stuff that I can't just Drag & Drop, even if it has a 'Copy Preventer'.

Incidentally you occasionally come across sites - Amazon does this with their previews inside books - where Print Screen doesn't work because they've been clever (the inside of the window comes up blank). But only slightly clever. If you open the window in the background, then open a second window of some other programme and drag it down to the bottom of the screen so it doesn't obscure the browser window but is still the one selected, THEN print screen, it works.

I don't think I'd put that much effort into copying a picture as all of that.

[Thande]

Originally Posted by Iori

I don't think I'd put that much effort into copying a picture as all of that.

So the logic behind internet copyright law is based on the idea that everyone is as lazy as you?

[Iori]

Originally Posted by Thande

So the logic behind internet copyright law is based on the idea that everyone is as lazy as you?

I'm not lazy, I just don't put alot of importance on that kind of stuff is all.

That said most people would probably give up after Copy Paste did'nt work.

[Nietzsche]

Can't save it my ass.

[area11]

Originally Posted by VulcanTrekkie45

Is that supposed to be 1815? If so, Maine should be coloured as a state. It was never a territory as you've shown it. Before being admitted to the Union in its own right in 1820, it was a part of Massachusetts.

Right fixed it.

[Boto von Ageduch]

Originally Posted by Iori

Red, according to the chart refers to Traditional (IE Native) African Religions.

Oops. Looks like I just wasn't patient enough to read that long key in order ...

But while we're still at it, wormyguy::
Lithuania is Catholic by a very broad margin. Not Protestant.

[Boto von Ageduch]

... and still referring to the denominations map, in

http://www.alternatehistory.com/disc...22#post3288922

someone has cooked come up with other flaws:
Australia and Papua-New Guinea should be Catholic golden as well.

[charl]

Originally Posted by Boto von Ageduch

... and still referring to the denominations map, in

http://www.alternatehistory.com/disc...22#post3288922

someone has cooked come up with other flaws:
Australia and Papua-New Guinea should be Catholic golden as well.

Latvia should also be Catholic (although if we start colouring countries with a majority non-religious population as irreligious grey then Latvia and indeed all the Baltic states should be that colour).

[Romul]

Originally Posted by area11

Right fixed it.

And remove borders between Virginia and West Virginia.

[SilverPhantom2]

The 1939 map displays the Spanish Civil War with the Republic in pink. Since the Fascists were the rebels, shouldn't they have a different color? I'd suggest iron gray... for Fascism. It should stay that way until 1978 when Spain transitioned to a social democracy.

[Thande]

Originally Posted by SilverPhantom2

The 1939 map displays the Spanish Civil War with the Republic in pink. Since the Fascists were the rebels, shouldn't they have a different color? I'd suggest iron gray... for Fascism. It should stay that way until 1978 when Spain transitioned to a social democracy.

If we do that for every country then we'd never have enough colours. The only reason we do it for Russia is that the WW2 UCS maps came first and then it seemed rather inappropriate to use Commie-red for Tsarist Russia. So whichever was the successful side of any civil war gets the country's usual colour.

[SRegan]

A little something I whipped up for those looking to create divergent borders based on the early internal divisions of the Soviet Union, based on this map. This is the Turkestan and Kirgizistan ASSRs (the former also showing the Khorezm and Bukharan PSRs - as far as I can tell Turkmenistan was just considered part of the Turkestan ASSR). This arrangement lasted from 1918 to 1924, when national delineation took place.

[SilverPhantom2]

Originally Posted by Thande

If we do that for every country then we'd never have enough colours. The only reason we do it for Russia is that the WW2 UCS maps came first and then it seemed rather inappropriate to use Commie-red for Tsarist Russia. So whichever was the successful side of any civil war gets the country's usual colour.

I really don't see how many countries you'd have to do it for? Especially if we're just looking at countries that A. have their own color, and B. have world-changing events. Spanish Civil War was most definitely a world-changing event. The CSA was given it's own color AND a national border when it should really just be white rebels with American claim to their states. Russia and China make complete sense since it's really a 180 in policy.

Basically, the trend here seems to be that whenever a regime forcefully takes charge i.e. Soviets, Chinese Communists, Confederates, they merit their own color because they are acceptable as "world changing events" and have a geo-political significance to merit their own color. Spain definitely fits this criteria but the maps don't reflect that.

[DrakeRlugia]

1783, using the Romul style map, with some help from Thande's 1793 map.

For America, I basically added in the various states claims to the western territories, as they haven't been relinquished yet. I basically used the same style in the general 1783 map, the USA being white with the influence outline. I also added Spanish outline around that one region near Georgia, considering they claimed it until 1795.

I'll probably transcribe some other maps too into this style, probably from the 17th and 16th centuries.

[Iori]

Originally Posted by SilverPhantom2

I really don't see how many countries you'd have to do it for? Especially if we're just looking at countries that A. have their own color, and B. have world-changing events. Spanish Civil War was most definitely a world-changing event. The CSA was given it's own color AND a national border when it should really just be white rebels with American claim to their states. Russia and China make complete sense since it's really a 180 in policy.

Basically, the trend here seems to be that whenever a regime forcefully takes charge i.e. Soviets, Chinese Communists, Confederates, they merit their own color because they are acceptable as "world changing events" and have a geo-political significance to merit their own color. Spain definitely fits this criteria but the maps don't reflect that.

The Spanich Civil War was'nt a world changing event.

1. It was fought more or less between Liberals and Conservatives, Progressives and Traditionalists, something that was'nt new, as civil wars with the same sides had been fought before.

2. Spain was also not a major power.

3. While their was support by outside powers, that supports did'nt decide the war.

[Thande]

Originally Posted by Iori

The Spanich Civil War was'nt a world changing event.

1. It was fought more or less between Liberals and Conservatives, Progressives and Traditionalists, something that was'nt new, as civil wars with the same sides had been fought before.

2. Spain was also not a major power.

3. While their was support by outside powers, that supports did'nt decide the war.

And to add another point, there was never any debate about recognising one side or the other as a legitimate government, as there was with China (famously) and to a lesser extent with Russia/the USSR. China's real reason for having two colours though is that they need to coexist on a map even up to the present day.

[SilverPhantom2]

Originally Posted by Iori

The Spanich Civil War was'nt a world changing event.

1. It was fought more or less between Liberals and Conservatives, Progressives and Traditionalists, something that was'nt new, as civil wars with the same sides had been fought before.

2. Spain was also not a major power.

3. While their was support by outside powers, that supports did'nt decide the war.

The SpanISH Civil War was the pregame for World War II in case you missed that tidbit in History 101. There wasn't major controversy surrounding it because the European powers were still hoping to not be drawn into an all-out conflict and they feared a Soviet puppet in the Spanish Republic. Spain was the last chink the chain for the Era of Appeasement. It was a sign, moreso than Munich that even when confronted with armed Fascists that European Democracies would falter.

Spain was not a major power, but if we're going to be technical, neither was the US in the 1860s.

And the support you speak of DID decide the war. The Nazis and Fascists supplied war materials infinitely superior to the support the Republic received from the Soviet Union. Seeing the few volunteers scrounged from Britain, America, and Mexico, the USSR looked to major powers to provide support. When France and Britain ignored the conflict, the Soviet Union backed off. Hitler and Mussolini gave Franco pretty much anything he wanted. It not only gave Fascism more power in Spain, but allowed the Axis to test their brand new weapons in a real war.

You may have heard of Guernica?

[Romul]

Originally Posted by DrakeRlugia

1783, using the Romul style map, with some help from Thande's 1793 map.

For America, I basically added in the various states claims to the western territories, as they haven't been relinquished yet. I basically used the same style in the general 1783 map, the USA being white with the influence outline. I also added Spanish outline around that one region near Georgia, considering they claimed it until 1795.

I'll probably transcribe some other maps too into this style, probably from the 17th and 16th centuries.

You forgot about the Crimean Khanate. It has become a part of the Russian Empire after the Treaty of Jassy in 1792. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treaty_of_Jassy