Base Maps from 550 BC to Modern Day, all in UCS!

[Darkaiz]

Originally Posted by Ridwan Asher

And not so eye-friendly one at that !!!

Nah... a pink China is pretty neat

[Ridwan Asher]

Originally Posted by Darkaiz

Nah... a pink China is pretty neat

China and Indonesia's colors are quite good there, I'll admit.

As for the most of the rest, they bled of my eyes !

[Gandavien]

Originally Posted by Ridwan Asher

China and Indonesia's colors are quite good there, I'll admit.

That's because they're the same as the UCS, almost.

[Ridwan Asher]

Originally Posted by Gandavien

That's because they're the same as the UCS, almost.

It's not like I was trying to hide it...

[Imperator Frank]

april 1945.

[Spitfiremk1]

Could i Request a map of the World as of April 20th 1971 anyone?

[The Doctor]

I think we need a template for future nation id colors. Yes?

[Jimbrock]

Hi,
Does anyone have a map of northern Italy in any time from 1183 to 1200 (i believe borders did not change in that time) includig the states that made up the Kingdom of Italy in the HRE? I've searched the web and several threads to no avail.
A map of the HRE with said small states would also be good. If Florence and Venice could be included too all the better.

Thanks,
Jim

[Tyr]

Euratlas has a 1200 one.

[Thande]

Originally Posted by Leej

Euratlas has a 1200 one.

It does, but it doesn't go into that amount of detail, it just shows it as the HRE.

The closest I can find is this 1084 one from Wikipedia: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...084_v2.svg.png

[Jimbrock]

Originally Posted by Leej

Euratlas has a 1200 one.

Ive tried that but it dosent have the all important states in the HRE (hell, thats the only thing I need) and its hardly editable.

Originally Posted by Thande

The closest I can find is this 1084 one from Wikipedia: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...084_v2.svg.png

Thanks, but it dosent show the area of N. Italy I need.

Jim

[Polish Eagle]

Does anyone have a base map from circa 1184 BC? Fall of troy, Greeks under Agamemnon and Menelaus, collapse of Hittites?

[Glen]

Originally Posted by Maharajah

I win the prize for the earliest base map ever (I think): 2000 BC.

Looks like the civilizations on this map.

[Onyx]

Does anyone have a map showing of Katanga? The only one that showed it was the 1961 map, but it had barely had definded borders...

[zoomar]

Good maps.

I don't know if others have noted this, but you have some confusing elements in early (pre 1500) north and central america. You seem to have overemphasized Yucatan and the Maya area to the detriment of central Mexico. It is surprising you show no independent state in central Mexico ca. AD500 when that was when the far reaching Teotihuacan state was thriving - and may in fact have dominated the Maya area. I also think you constantly overestimate the state-like nature of the north american cultures. The only possible true state may have been the Mississippian complex centered on Cahokia of the early second millenia. It is a real stretch to consider the earlier Mounbuilders and the Southwestern puebloan cultures "states" equivalent to those of MesoAmerica and the Andes.

[Thucydides]

Can I request a redux of the 1901 one with state division in the US?

[democracy101]

I don't know if anyone mentioned this, but any maps depicting Korea as part of Japan, Tang/Ming/Qing China, or Mongolia are incorrect.

Japan never conquered Gaya. Some say that Japan invaded Silla and failed, which is doubtable, but Japan certainly did not have the capacity to expand that far.

The Tang assisted Silla in conquering the southern Korean peninsula, but were driven out as soon as Silla managed to stabilize the area. Also, Balhae held the Liaodong Peninsula, in addition to southern & eastern Mongolia and northern Korea, until the 900's; Tang never controlled it, as shown in your map of 800. Not only that, the Tang never directly controlled Tibet, Mongolia, or Southeast Asia (except for northern Vietnam); they only controlled China proper (which excludes Mongolia, Xinjiang, and Tibet) and Central Asia.

The Mongols only managed to subjugate Korea by making it a tributary state; they never claimed it directly.

The Ming and Qing did not claim Korea as an integral part of their territory; like the Mongols, they only forced it to become a tributary state.

Hope this helps, and that your maps will be fixed asap if they haven't been already.

[TheNordicBrit]

How do you show that one nation has claimed another? The UCS on the first page doesn't give detail as to how you show it and so I'm a little confused, if someone could show me on an actually map or something that'd be great, thanks

[qweasd]

Originally Posted by gamb1993

How do you show that one nation has claimed another? The UCS on the first page doesn't give detail as to how you show it and so I'm a little confused, if someone could show me on an actually map or something that'd be great, thanks

Like this:

The central territory (Kosovo) is claimed by purple (Serbia) and actually controlled by green (Albania).
Outlines mean claiming or legal ownership, and the central colour denotes actual control.

[TheNordicBrit]

Originally Posted by qweasd

Like this:

The central territory (Kosovo) is claimed by purple (Serbia) and actually controlled by green (Albania).
Outlines mean claiming or legal ownership, and the central colour denotes actual control.

Thanks But isn't this de jure control? Or is that something different?