TL-191: After the End

[Petike]

I wonder what HT would say if you'd show him this effort.

[Archangel]

Good update, David!

Originally Posted by Arkhangelsk

We do now.

By the way David, yet another wonderful update, I love the latest developments within Japan, it's truly interesting. I can't wait until June to see what the forthcoming decade holds for us.

Here's the world at the very start of 1970.

Nice map, Arkhangelsk!

[Poor Little Rhode Island]

Originally Posted by Petike

I wonder what HT would say if you'd show him this effort.

Turtledove probably wouldn't care; it isn't earning him any money!! Besides, he got sick of the franchise. That's why he wrapped it up. That's also why the novels got more and more repetitious as they came along. There's only so much complaining about U.S. cigarettes being inferior to C.S. cigarettes one can take, after all!!

[Petike]

Originally Posted by Poor Little Rhode Island

Turtledove probably wouldn't care; it isn't earning him any money!! Besides, he got sick of the franchise. That's why he wrapped it up. That's also why the novels got more and more repetitious as they came along. There's only so much complaining about U.S. cigarettes being inferior to C.S. cigarettes one can take, after all!!

Yes, I doubt Harry would look back too fondly at the longest series he's ever written.

[Poor Little Rhode Island]

Originally Posted by Petike

Yes, I doubt Harry would look back too fondly at the longest series he's ever written.

I don't mind authors earning their money, but when their series becomes little more than repetitions, I stop buying! It almost felt like he had someone else culling passages from earlier installments and then writing appropriate bridges between them. No sense of continuity in details (and, frankly, that's what makes good ATL's exciting and what we find a LOT here on this site!)

HT used to be my fav AH writer. No more. He's gotten rich, but sloppy and careless.

[scourge]

Originally Posted by Poor Little Rhode Island

Turtledove probably wouldn't care; it isn't earning him any money!! Besides, he got sick of the franchise. That's why he wrapped it up. That's also why the novels got more and more repetitious as they came along. There's only so much complaining about U.S. cigarettes being inferior to C.S. cigarettes one can take, after all!!

You forgot about Sam Carsten and his arch enemy sunburns. Scipio and the fact he can talk like an upper class white Confederate and switch to the Congaree dialect he grew up with. Potter and the fact everyone looks at him funny because he speaks like a damnyankee.

[Zmflavius]

Originally Posted by Poor Little Rhode Island

HT used to be my fav AH writer. No more. He's gotten rich, but sloppy and careless.

Especially, I've noticed that the quality of his old short story anthologies are almost universally of higher quality than his long series, especially the most recent ones.

[Saladan]

How are relations between the CDS and the Central Powers?

[David bar Elias]

Originally Posted by Saladan

How are relations between the CDS and the Central Powers?

Between the CDS and the European Community? Quite cordial, as of 1969.

[MarshalBraginsky]

So is the island of Hokkaido a part of the Russian Republic or is it an independent state but under Russian influence?

[Poor Little Rhode Island]

Originally Posted by scourge

You forgot about Sam Carsten and his arch enemy sunburns. Scipio and the fact he can talk like an upper class white Confederate and switch to the Congaree dialect he grew up with. Potter and the fact everyone looks at him funny because he speaks like a damnyankee.

You made me laugh so hard, I fell out of my chair and banged my elbow on the floor!!!

[CT23]

What happened after the war to Hip Rodriguez' kids?

[The Kiat]

Originally Posted by Poor Little Rhode Island

I don't mind authors earning their money, but when their series becomes little more than repetitions, I stop buying! It almost felt like he had someone else culling passages from earlier installments and then writing appropriate bridges between them. No sense of continuity in details (and, frankly, that's what makes good ATL's exciting and what we find a LOT here on this site!)

HT used to be my fav AH writer. No more. He's gotten rich, but sloppy and careless.

The thing about repetition is that the characters in 191 are just average people, and average lives are very repetitious. It's enough to make me sick of my life.

[Mac Gregor]

Great update!

What is the deal with Ottoman Egypt and Sudan?

[Arkhangelsk]

Originally Posted by Sibirskaya

So is the island of Hokkaido a part of the Russian Republic or is it an independent state but under Russian influence?

Hokkaido is under joint Russo-CDS military rule (the CDS represented by the US color). Unfortunately the US and Russian colors are very similar and easy blend together.

I'll take the opportunity to post another map, this time showing the main alliances. I think it's pretty self-explanatory, but here I go anyway:

Compact of Democratic States
-CDS allied
European Community
-EC allied
Independence Movement

[Richter von Manthofen]

Seems the Swiss still amke cheese and money independently from others...

[David bar Elias]

Originally Posted by Arkhangelsk

Hokkaido is under joint Russo-CDS military rule (the CDS represented by the US color). Unfortunately the US and Russian colors are very similar and easy blend together.

I'll take the opportunity to post another map, this time showing the main alliances. I think it's pretty self-explanatory, but here I go anyway:

Compact of Democratic States
-CDS allied
European Community
-EC allied
Independence Movement

Great map! The only thing that should be changed is that Tibet is not in the IM.

[Archangel]

Originally Posted by Arkhangelsk

Hokkaido is under joint Russo-CDS military rule (the CDS represented by the US color). Unfortunately the US and Russian colors are very similar and easy blend together.

I'll take the opportunity to post another map, this time showing the main alliances. I think it's pretty self-explanatory, but here I go anyway:

Compact of Democratic States
-CDS allied
European Community
-EC allied
Independence Movement

What is the current economic balance between those alliances?

[Docmagnus]

Good work, sir! I joined and subscribed on account of this one. Keep up the good work!

[Abhakhazia]

I joined on account of this thread also. I have my own ripoff thread, The TL-191 2012 Presidential Election.