AHC: Father/Son President: Son serves first.

In OTL the U.S. has had two Father/Son Presidents (Adams and Bush), your challenge is with a POD after George Washington takes office, have the U.S. have a Father/Son Presidential pair, but have the son serve as President first and then the father serve second. The terms can be at any point including up to the present day. The neither the father nor the son have to have served as President in OTL but bonus points if one of them did and even more bonus points if one of them did and they keep the same tenure in office.

Edit to add: This can also be a Mother/Son, Father/Daughter, Mother/Daughter challenge.
 
Trying this with the Bushes is too hard, since without Bush Senior as President, I can't see Bush Junior getting anywhere.

OK:

- Joe Kennedy Senior never has a stroke and remains healthy.
- John F. Kennedy elected in 1960. Assassinated on time, except that Lyndon Johnson is taken out with him.
- John William McCormack becomes President. He opts not to run in 1964.
- Hubert Humphrey is elected with Joe Kennedy Senior as his VP in order to play for the sympathy vote.
- Humphrey dies in a plane crash in 1967. Joe Kennedy Senior becomes President.
 
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Would Humphrey take Joe Kennedy Sr. as VP? With my knowledge men had pretty different opinions.
 
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How about this:

John Jay, instead of John Adams, becomes VP under Washington, as Adams makes a few too many enemies. His son, instead of diplomacy, is pushed into legislative work by John.

Jay, seeming too anti-slavery by some in the South, loses enough border state Electoral Votes, and doesn't attack Jefferson as bitterly, so Jefferson becomes President in 1796. He ends up serving 2 terms.

In 1804, a 37-year-old John Quincy Adams, having been pushed by his dad for years, is elected President when James Madison comes down with a fever and is passed over for nomination by the D-R in favor of James Monroe, a less well-known figure outside Virginia.

though his dad, John, is pleased at first, his son becomes unpopular as Jefferson caused tensions with Britain but now Adams has turned things a sharp 180 and won't even embargo the British like many in New England wish.

Hoping to spare his son the embarrassment of being turned away by the Federalists, John Adams, despite being 73, suggests he run for President step down from his Senate seat if he wins, while J.Q. Adams gets his old Senate seat. JQ Adams agrees, not having enjoyed his time in the White House, but serves for decades in the Senate afterward.

John Adams, a hero in New England, anyway, is elected the nation's 4th President in 1808 and gets the credit when the British finally ened impressment and make a treaty with the U.S. in 1812, as Adams refused to listen to the war hawks. "Perhaps had I encouraged my son to go into diplomacy," he remarks at the end of his term in 1813, "it would have been he who had this success, butwe have peace, that is what matters."

Edit: Missed the part about after Washington takes office but it could still happen if John Adams gets fed up with the office of VP after 4 years.
 
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In OTL the U.S. has had two Father/Son Presidents (Adams and Bush), your challenge is with a POD after George Washington takes office, have the U.S. have a Father/Son Presidential pair, but have the son serve as President first and then the father serve second. The terms can be at any point including up to the present day. The neither the father nor the son have to have served as President in OTL but bonus points if one of them did and even more bonus points if one of them did and they keep the same tenure in office.

In November 4, 1924, saw the election of incumbent President, John Calvin Coolidge, Jr. taking the position of Vice President with his father, John Calvin Coolidge, Sr. taking the Republican President ticket.

List of Prime Ministers:
1923–1925: John Calvin Coolidge, Jr.
1925-1926: John Calvin Coolidge, Sr.
1926-1929: John Calvin Coolidge, Jr.
1929-1933: Herbert Hoover
1933-1945 Franklin D. Roosevelt
1945-1953: Harry S. Truman
 
In OTL the U.S. has had two Father/Son Presidents (Adams and Bush), your challenge is with a POD after George Washington takes office, have the U.S. have a Father/Son Presidential pair, but have the son serve as President first and then the father serve second. The terms can be at any point including up to the present day. The neither the father nor the son have to have served as President in OTL but bonus points if one of them did and even more bonus points if one of them did and they keep the same tenure in office.

Edit to add: This can also be a Mother/Son, Father/Daughter, Mother/Daughter challenge.

A difficult scenario. The son cannot be elected to the presidency before he is 35. His father is extremely likely to be in his mid-fifties, or even older. If the son is elected at the age, say of Kennedy in 1960, he would be 43, and his father is in his sixties. Assuming the son serves a single term, the father would be approaching seventy before he could be elected. It's not impossible, of course, but I'd say this is an extremely improbable event.
 
A difficult scenario. The son cannot be elected to the presidency before he is 35. His father is extremely likely to be in his mid-fifties, or even older. If the son is elected at the age, say of Kennedy in 1960, he would be 43, and his father is in his sixties. Assuming the son serves a single term, the father would be approaching seventy before he could be elected. It's not impossible, of course, but I'd say this is an extremely improbable event.

Also if you look at OTL presidents most of their fathers died early. Also it's unlikely to see a female president pre 2000
 
Also if you look at OTL presidents most of their fathers died early. Also it's unlikely to see a female president pre 2000

Which is why I went John and John Quincy Adams - that was stretching it with Adams' age, but we know he lived to 90.

I looked at Bryan, Dewey, wondered if their dads could have lived longer and become President after they're elected, but while Bryan's dad would have theoretically been possible had he had Bryan in his early 20s, he didn't have Bryan till he was 38. So, if Bryan's a 2-termer in 1896 his dad would be 83 when he ran. J.Q. Adams, at least, was plausible as a one-termer in that position I put him.
 
Maybe the son is elected President, serves his 8 years. Another 8 years later the father is vice-President, but the President ends up leaving power, and the father comes into power?
 

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I can't imagine it playing well enough in the media to happen, but what if a son becomes President, running with his father as his VP running mate. Then, the son either dies and leaves the dad in office or the dad decides to run on his own after son is done in office.

Son/Dad P/VP doesn't sound likely, but if both were respected for different things and the dad provided senior "wisdom", I guess it could happen.
 
When was the rule about President and Vice-President being from different states introduced, and how many of the possibilities suggested here so far could easily have got around that rule?
 
When was the rule about President and Vice-President being from different states introduced, and how many of the possibilities suggested here so far could easily have got around that rule?

The problem is with the electoral votes; they *can* be from the same state but the electors fromthat state can't vote for candidates fromt he same state for President and Vice President.

That makes it realy hard before 1804 because of the rule that they just voted for 2, not differentiating between President and Vice President. At least after 1804, you have defined parties generally supporting one candidate for each, which means cyou could, if you feel good enough about your candidates otherwise, throw, say, a JQ Adams/John Adams ticket out there in 1804. It's just that Massachusetts' electors wouldn't be able to vote for both.
 
In 1762, Thomas Gladstones and Helen Neilson move to Braintree, Province of Massachusetts Bay, where two years later, they give birth to John Gladstone, who first becomes a merchant and philanthropist, until 1812 when he became the 3rd Senator from Massachusetts, the first of four generations of Gladstones to serve in US politics.
John Gladstone, will hold this position he will hold until his death on December 7th, 1851. He was a great friend of John Quincy Adams, with rumours of Gladstone being picked as Adams' Vice Presidne in 1825.

On December 29th, 1809, John Gladstone gives birth to William Ewart Gladstone, who was a Representative from 1832 to 1851, when he carried on from his father in the senate. On January 3, 1861, William was elected as Governor of Massachusetts, a position he will hold till January 4, 1872, beating Levi Lincoln, Jr., as longest period of uninterrupted service as Governor.

On June 3rd, 1840, William E. Gladstone and hist wife, Catherine née Glynne., were blessed with their first son William Henry Gladstone.

Nearly ten years after his grandfather's death, on 4th March 1861, William Henry Gladstone takes the same office in the Senate as his grandfather and father.

On March 4, 1869, Ulysses S. Grant and his running mate William Henry Gladstone are inaugerated as President and Vice President of the United States of America.

On April 29th 1871, President Grant, nine days after setting up the Civil Right Act, is assassinated by George W. Gordon, a former general of the Confederate States Army during the American Civil War, after the war, he practiced law in Pulaski, Tennessee, where the Ku Klux Klan, was formed of which he was one of the Klan's first members.

On April 30th 1871, William Henry Gladstone becomes the 19th President of America, a position he holds for the remaining term but declines to stand for his own, so on March 4th, 1873, Rutherford B. Hayes, is elected as the 20th President.

Although in 1872, he choose his father, as 29th United States Secretary of the Treasury, replasing George S. Boutwell, who had left to sit in the Senate.

In 1880, William Ewart Gladstone, was elected as the 24th President, becoming the first father to become president after his son. His first term saw many reforms, such as the the introduction of secret voting and the re-birth of the US Navy.

In 1884, he was not chosen as the Republican nominatee, due to backstabbers in the party, who saw him as too much of a Liberal. However Benjamin Harrisson lost the election to Grover Cleveland.

In 1888, William Ewart Gladstone, re-gained the nomination (some say he was seen as a democratic Republican), was re-elected as the 26th President, being the only US president to serve two nonconsecutive terms (1880–1884 and 1888–1896), the only prsident to serve more then the conventional two terms (three terms 1880, 1888, 1892) and to be counted twice in the numbering of the presidents.

His last term, was marked with tradegy after, firstly his son, died on the 4th July 1892 and then the split of the Republican party, into the Progressive Party and the Conservative Party, seeing a sad end to the Grand Old Party.

In 1896 his Vice President, William McKinley, who famously had the Progressive Party, gain support from the Democrats, who were mainly run by the socialist.
In 1898, two years after leaving office, William E. Gladstone died, many said this was a blessing, as he would have hated to see his friend and vice-president assassinated in 1901.

Gladstone is famous for his oratory, his religiosity, his liberalism, his rivalry with the Conservative Party representatives, James G. Blaine, and Benjamin Harrison.
Gladstone was known affectionately by his supporters as "The People's William" or the "G.O.M." ("Grand Old Man", or, according to James G. Blaine, "God's Only Mistake").Gladstone is consistently ranked as one of America's greatest Presidents.
 
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