Without Jesus world would be totally different. Zoroaster and Buddha has only local affect. Without Jesus there wouldn't be Islam and history of the world would be total different.
What about Moses?
What about Moses?
Probably didn't exist, or at least not even close to as described in scripture.
Couldn't the same be said for Jesus?
Couldn't the same be said for Jesus?
Couldn't the same be said for Jesus?
Because those Messianic claimants had a very different idea of what being the Messiah meant. They tried to rally popular support for a rebellion against Rome and restore an independent kingdom of Israel, with themselves as its king. Admittedly, this was also what most Jews thought the Messiah was supposed to be.The thing with Jesus is that there were plenty of other people all claiming to be the Christ at the same time. In an ATL where Jesus is never born, what's to stop one of the others simply taking his place as the supposed Messiah?
I wouldn't be surprised if a few other folks followed a similar path to Jesus, but were simply out done on the press front or whatever.Because those Messianic claimants had a very different idea of what being the Messiah meant. They tried to rally political support for a rebellion against Rome and restore an independent kingdom of Israel, with themselves as its king. Admittedly, this was also what most Jews thought the Messiah was supposed to be.
But according to the Gospels, Jesus never harbored such earthly ambitions and indeed rejected the idea on several occasions. Divinity aside, Jesus was a sage and a healer, not a political leader. The other Messianic claimants had two outcomes: succeed and become a secular king, or fail and be crucified. But unlike Jesus' crucifixion, their deaths wouldn't give birth to new religions because they never taught anything different than standard Judaism.
Because those Messianic claimants had a very different idea of what being the Messiah meant. They tried to rally political support for a rebellion against Rome and restore an independent kingdom of Israel, with themselves as its king. Admittedly, this was also what most Jews thought the Messiah was supposed to be.
But according to the Gospels, Jesus never harbored such earthly ambitions and indeed rejected the idea on several occasions. Divinity aside, Jesus was a sage and a healer, not a political leader. The other Messianic claimants had two outcomes: succeed and become a secular king, or fail and be crucified. But unlike Jesus' crucifixion, their deaths wouldn't give birth to new religions because they never taught anything different than standard Judaism.
John the Baptist, for example?I wouldn't be surprised if a few other folks followed a similar path to Jesus, but were simply out done on the press front or whatever.
John the Baptist, for example?
I'm sure there were other sages and healers roaming Israel, but the core idea of Christianity—that the Messiah is a son of God who must die as a human sacrifice and then rise from the dead for the forgiveness of sins—seems so radical when compared to what we know about first century Judaism that I can't imagine that anybody else at the time had the same idea.I wouldn't be surprised if a few other folks followed a similar path to Jesus, but were simply out done on the press front or whatever.
Because Messianic claimants back then were like political candidates today. You get behind one and support him, but if he fails, you move on to a different candidate. You don't stick with a loser. And execution is the ultimate form of failure, which is why I don't see any other followers doing what Jesus' disciples did.If they fail and get crucified in the same manner as Jesus did, and they have some of the same disciples which would have been Jesus's Apostles IOTL, what's to stop the disciples from carrying early Christianity in the same general direction? Would Paul have still written the Book of Revelations if he'd been following a different Messiah, in an ATL without Jesus? Maybe not, but it's still plausible that he would have. And if they're written by the same people with the same motives, the Gospels themselves will probably make the same claims regarding the Messiah's supposed virtues and any other claimants' alleged vices, regardless of who their Messiah is.