gore ellected in 2000

[anamarvelo]

what if the supreme court decided not to play partisan plotics and let gore win becaus he had the most acutal votes
what is the us like today
what was his reation to the signficant events of the bush presidence (911, catrina, ect.)

[Paul V McNutt]

I think President Gore finds a way to get health care passed. If 9 - 11 happens there is probably a war in Afghanistan but no invasion of Iraq.
I think Gore is reelected in 2004 and I assume he beats John McCain. That means in the time of economic collapse the Republican, I assume Mitt Romney wins in 2008. Since there is no stimulus package the economy is worse. So the Republican president is in trouble.

[anamarvelo]

Originally Posted by Paul V McNutt

I think President Gore finds a way to get health care passed. If 9 - 11 happens there is probably a war in Afghanistan but no invasion of Iraq.
I think Gore is reelected in 2004 and I assume he beats John McCain. That means in the time of economic collapse the Republican, I assume Mitt Romney wins in 2008. Since there is no stimulus package the economy is worse. So the Republican president is in trouble.

acualt the econmic collasp was caused by the huge increas in our national debt caused by fighting war and a ton of insider trading caused by bush cutting regulation on the banks
so the econic slowdown will not happen

[SuperMonkey]

Originally Posted by anamarvelo

acualt the econmic collasp was caused by the huge increas in our national debt caused by fighting war and a ton of insider trading caused by bush cutting regulation on the banks
so the econic slowdown will not happen

Run-on sentences are teh shiz-nit.

Also, there is next to no chance of the Supreme Court giving the presidency to Gore if the numbers are the same as IOTL. Your best hope is to figure out a swing state (probably not Florida; it's best to avoid that debacle entirely) that could have easily gone from Bush to Gore so that Gore has a legitimate majority in the Electoral College. New Mexico, Iowa, and Wisconsin were all very close.

There's really a big hunk of misunderstanding out there about what the Supreme Court actually did in Bush v Gore. They didn't really declare Bush the winner (as that isn't their constitutional duty), but they declared that recounts had to end in Florida, effectively sealing the numbers in Bush's favor. The effect is surprisingly similar, and it was quite shady how everything went down, but technically everything still went by the way the Constitution says it's supposed to -- i.e., the Electoral College having the only actual role in electing the president.

[Plumber]

President Romney is facing certain defeat by Democratic nominee Hillary Clinton.

[MrHuman]

Originally Posted by anamarvelo

acualt the econmic collasp was caused by the huge increas in our national debt caused by fighting war and a ton of insider trading caused by bush cutting regulation on the banks
so the econic slowdown will not happen

No, actually a huge piece of the blame goes to the Clinton administration, whose de-regulatory policies were one of the major causes of the crash. Read Robert Scheer's "The Great American Stickup" for more information.

[Tallest Skil]

Originally Posted by anamarvelo

acualt the econmic collasp was caused by the huge increas in our national debt caused by fighting war and a ton of insider trading caused by bush cutting regulation on the banks
so the econic slowdown will not happen

That's not really the cause of it, but you're right in that the recession won't happen in the SAME way as OTL.

[imperialaquila]

Originally Posted by Tallest Skil

That's not really the cause of it, but you're right in that the recession won't happen in the SAME way as OTL.

Yeah, the US might be in an overall better situation due to lower debt/deficits and less deregulation, but some kind of major slowdown was inevitable given the state of the housing market.

[Plumber]

Originally Posted by MrHuman

No, actually a huge piece of the blame goes to the Clinton administration, whose de-regulatory policies were one of the major causes of the crash. Read Robert Scheer's "The Great American Stickup" for more information.

Pretty much. Bush made the problem worse, but there's still going to be shit hitting the fan, if less shit than OTL. And a Republican President elected in 2008 means the economy is going to have a smaller stimulus, which spells big trouble. I'd say we're around 2010's economy now.

[RCAF Brat]

Originally Posted by Plumber

Pretty much. Bush made the problem worse, but there's still going to be shit hitting the fan, if less shit than OTL. And a Republican President elected in 2008 means the economy is going to have a smaller stimulus, which spells big trouble. I'd say we're around 2010's economy now.

Not so much less shit, but different shit. Gore could very well have gone for tax cuts in '03/04 in order to boost his chances at reelection. Not to mention that he's going to face a congress where one or both houses are dominated by the Republicans, with whom he has to compromise in order to actually get anything done.

Yeah, and presuming his reelection in '04, '08 will be a Republican year, and they'll win big too. How they deal with the mess is an open question, but they'll definitely spin it as Gore's legacy.

[anamarvelo]

Originally Posted by SuperMonkey

Run-on sentences are teh shiz-nit.

Also, there is next to no chance of the Supreme Court giving the presidency to Gore if the numbers are the same as IOTL. Your best hope is to figure out a swing state (probably not Florida; it's best to avoid that debacle entirely) that could have easily gone from Bush to Gore so that Gore has a legitimate majority in the Electoral College. New Mexico, Iowa, and Wisconsin were all very close.

There's really a big hunk of misunderstanding out there about what the Supreme Court actually did in Bush v Gore. They didn't really declare Bush the winner (as that isn't their constitutional duty), but they declared that recounts had to end in Florida, effectively sealing the numbers in Bush's favor. The effect is surprisingly similar, and it was quite shady how everything went down, but technically everything still went by the way the Constitution says it's supposed to -- i.e., the Electoral College having the only actual role in electing the president.

so he just need to spend more mony in a swing state to gain a few more votes to win

[anamarvelo]

Originally Posted by RCAF Brat

Not so much less shit, but different shit. Gore could very well have gone for tax cuts in '03/04 in order to boost his chances at reelection. Not to mention that he's going to face a congress where one or both houses are dominated by the Republicans, with whom he has to compromise in order to actually get anything done.

Yeah, and presuming his reelection in '04, '08 will be a Republican year, and they'll win big too. How they deal with the mess is an open question, but they'll definitely spin it as Gore's legacy.

the rupublicans only gain te majority throught there post 911 fear mongering about how weak the democrat are
if gore takes are harder stance on it the odds are the majority will not shift

[anamarvelo]

Originally Posted by imperialaquila

Yeah, the US might be in an overall better situation due to lower debt/deficits and less deregulation, but some kind of major slowdown was inevitable given the state of the housing market.

the housing market bubble burst was caused by insider trading when banks lied to there cunstomers about housing pricese

[mowque]

Originally Posted by anamarvelo

so he just need to spend more mony in a swing state to gain a few more votes to win

Well, more money doesn't always equal votes. But yeah, that's the idea. Heck, a different weather set that day could change the outcome!

[Paul V McNutt]

I wrote a tL on the original Othertimelines that had Gore spending the last day of the campaign in New Hapshire and then winning that state and the election. My DBWI George W Bush which you cAn find here by going to posts of Paul V McNutt had Puerto Rico voting for statehood a d giving Gore the electoral college margin.

[Xachiavelli]

Originally Posted by Plumber

President Romney is facing certain defeat by Democratic nominee Hillary Clinton.

Would Romney still be the nominee? I think any of the 2012 final four (Romney, Paul, Gingrich and Santorum) are possible... or somebody totally different.