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Old May 17th, 2012, 02:29 AM
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Old May 17th, 2012, 10:02 AM
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If the Whites win the Russian Revolution, I'm guessing Vertov flees to Western Europe, works with his brother more... and, possibly, Kaufman never gets to meet Vigo.
Certainly works if the TTL sees the Whites win the Russian Civil War... though I'm still unsure you even need political changes that drastic. Still, for now since I'm drawn to the idea of artists like Vertov, Malevich, and others coming west, I suppose we can run with it for now...
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Old May 17th, 2012, 11:14 PM
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How less drastic do you think they could be, then?
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Old May 18th, 2012, 03:07 AM
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How less drastic do you think they could be, then?
Well, hypothetically the Soviet state could be largely the same, aside from propaganda aesthetics. For example, getting Vertov to go west may not be that much of a challenge -- his brothers were in Western Europe during the Civil War; he might have decided to join them if his propaganda work didn't turn out. Of course, that's just one Russian -- doesn't include Malevich, et el...
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Old May 18th, 2012, 04:52 AM
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Well, how does a whole wave of them go, then...?
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Old May 18th, 2012, 05:15 AM
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Well, how does a whole wave of them go, then...?
Good question; maybe it does require something as drastic as a White victory...
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Old May 19th, 2012, 03:39 AM
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If there was no Picasso then I guess some other "artist" would take his place.
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Old May 20th, 2012, 01:45 PM
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