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Old May 25th, 2012, 05:55 AM
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In an ideal situation, without any regard for treaties, materials, manpower and such, what are the largest guns you could fit on it?
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Old May 25th, 2012, 06:18 AM
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In an ideal situation, without any regard for treaties, materials, manpower and such, what are the largest guns you could fit on it?
Odds are 2x2 380mm, why you would want to I have no idea.

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If its no holds bar, they wouldn't have been built in anything like OTL fashion in the first place...
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If its no holds bar, they wouldn't have been built in anything like OTL fashion in the first place...
That was not my question. I'd merely like to know how much you can upgun the Panzerschiff.
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If its no holds bar, they wouldn't have been built in anything like OTL fashion in the first place...
The Versailles treaty determined the NUMBER and Tonnage of Warshpis allowed to Germany - it left open the armament, so Germany COULD put guns on the PBS as it liked.

I believe the 28cm armament was the heaviest possible on 10.000 ts ships. Even then the ships were quite top heavy.

2x30cm might have been possible, but I think triple 28 actually were the better armament. Going after BBs would have been suicide and 3x28 is enough to kill any cruiser available in the 30s
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The Versailles treaty determined the NUMBER and Tonnage of Warshpis allowed to Germany - it left open the armament, so Germany COULD put guns on the PBS as it liked.

I believe the 28cm armament was the heaviest possible on 10.000 ts ships. Even then the ships were quite top heavy.

2x30cm might have been possible, but I think triple 28 actually were the better armament. Going after BBs would have been suicide and 3x28 is enough to kill any cruiser available in the 30s
Let's say the Kriegsmarine is willing to to accept it being more topheavy than is normally deemed safe. What are the actual, physical limitations of the gun size?

By the by, thanks for posting.
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I think answering THAT question would need a shipbuilding engineer
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I believe the 28cm armament was the heaviest possible on 10.000 ts ships. Even then the ships were quite top heavy.
The German/Dutch-designed Finnish 3.900 tns coastal defence ships Ilmarinen and Väinämöinen had four 25.4 cm Bofors guns in two dual turrets.

Just for reference.
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