AH Challenge: Let's make a realistic Code Geass timeline!

[TNF]

I'm a big, big fan of Code Geass: Lelouch of the Rebellion. I watched the whole series in Japanese with the subtitles, watched it again in English, etc. The show is great. Its got realistic characters, a good plot, but it's really, really lacking in the Alternate History department that actually serves as a crucical part of the story.

Take the timeline that's been revealed so far from the series and related materials, like the light novels, manga, whathaveyou for example. Its a big, big AH headache, to say the least. The change in calendars, for example, is horribly off.

After a certain point, they seem to integrate them with dates from OTL, which doesn't make sense, considering that the a.t.b. (Ascension Throne Britannia) calendar starts 55 years before the AD calendar. For example, they assume that because the American Revolution happened in the 1770s AD, it would also assume in the 1770s a.t.b., complete with toddler versions of Washington, Jefferson, and Adams. Ugh. Its a mess.

So, in light of all of this horribly confusing, ASB timeline, I present the members of AH.com with this simple challenge--somehow, make it at least realistic. In that realistic shift, however, we do want to maintain some semblence of the original timeline--namely, the nations and the technologies (minus the Knightmare frames...those we could probably see sacrificed) that exist in the story should exist in a more realistic time line to the extent that its plausible for them to. ASB elements, such as the immortal C.C., the 'gods', the Geass cult, whathaveyou, should be left out entirely, unless there's some way to explain them scientifically (which I doubt).

[Thinker1200]

Look the Knightmares should be left out because thats just an anime convention, and it has been ever since MSG came out. Geass on the other hand is vital to the acutal plot of the anime. Take that out, there are no Black Knights, there is no Zero, or any of that, for it was the Geaas's connection with the gods that drove nearly 3/4 of the anime.

[TNF]

Originally Posted by Thinker1200

Look the Knightmares should be left out because thats just an anime convention, and it has been ever since MSG came out. Geass on the other hand is vital to the acutal plot of the anime. Take that out, there are no Black Knights, there is no Zero, or any of that, for it was the Geaas's connection with the gods that drove nearly 3/4 of the anime.

Then we can at least get it up to the point of the invasion of Japan without ASBs, though, can't we? Before that, there's little to no use of the Geass on the society of the world at large, after all.

[BlackWave]

I guess the easiest POD is a different American revolution. Either it gets crushed as in the original, or the aftermath goes screwy and we get the Empire thing.

Oh, and this may be in ASB section.

[xchen08]

Get rid of the wierd nonsense about the Julius Caesar, King Arthur, Ben Franklin betraying the Revolution, etc. Follow Thande, say, in having a British princeling exiled or dispatched to the American colonies. Have him set up a system of nobility and bind the colonies together, then win a succession war to take the British Throne. Then follow Code Geass in having some Frenchman, most likely not Napoleon, successfully invade and conquer Britain but letting some Prince survive to reach the Americas. That Prince would then have the wealthiest, most populous, and most industrialized (such as it were) state in the Americas. The French holdings were indefensible and would rapidly fall, making the state inassailable from the Old World. Then give it a few centuries and I can see a Western Hemisphere spanning superpower.

[Saladan]

Originally Posted by xchen08

Get rid of the wierd nonsense about the Julius Caesar, King Arthur, Ben Franklin betraying the Revolution, etc. Follow Thande, say, in having a British princeling exiled or dispatched to the American colonies. Have him set up a system of nobility and bind the colonies together, then win a succession war to take the British Throne. Then follow Code Geass in having some Frenchman, most likely not Napoleon, successfully invade and conquer Britain but letting some Prince survive to reach the Americas. That Prince would then have the wealthiest, most populous, and most industrialized (such as it were) state in the Americas. The French holdings were indefensible and would rapidly fall, making the state inassailable from the Old World. Then give it a few centuries and I can see a Western Hemisphere spanning superpower.

IMO the entire Code Geass thing is just outright ASB. But this scenario seems to be the most likely way of making this thing realistic.

[Solroc]

Much as I like the original ASB'ness of Code Geass, I appreciate the effort you guys are making to make plausible CG TL's.

Here's what really bugs me: the Chinese Federation is not only a Communist state despite has conquered areas it has not been able to even reach, much les influence or conquer. So my question is: is there a 'plausible' POD within the Code Geass that can explain said expansion?

[Libertad]

TO DarklightZERO: Is this TL of yours tied with those of Sibirskaya that already produced a 1057 A.D. POD? I am also not sure of transforming Britannia into a "Prydain"... why not just use a Revolutionary Britain and then make it tied to the EU and also put in an alternate EU history... Of course, it would be up to you if you want to see a powerful Slavic neighbor beyond Prussia... and a Roman neighbor beyond Vienna... If not, then you can just "handwave" it and change them into OTL's Russian Empire and Ottoman Empire...

I have problems thinking of where the Industrial Revolution could be started though.... The only place I could think of besides Britain that also has good rivers and coal mines are Galicia, the Donets Basin and northwestern Ukraine... all falling under Sibirskaya's territory.... We can also include boosting up economic activity in Royal and Ducal Prussia... and finally, extend the Revolution into the Roman Empire through Russia... We must also have to give Belgium to the Dutch... so they could start their own Industrial Revolution... through their trade with the Prussians and Courish in the Baltics... which will finally bring it to the "British Isles" (renamed from Britannian Isles) by the time of Napoleonic era... I'm thinking of Britannian entrepreneurs and inventors like James Watt sprouting and start the First Industrial Revolution not in their land but in the Netherlands or in Poland or Prussia... even in all of them... Old Britannia could be affected... but not until the "British Revolution" will it truly industrialize...

I also told everyone before about Aranfan's "Vive La Revolution" TL where there's a Napoleon Bonaparte that met Benjamin Franklin, and thus influence him with the ideals of the Washington Rebellion... and change the course of European history from a French Empire into an EU like "Roman Empire".... but of course, we could just change it into the European Confederation... There's also the Geass factor of having C.C. that followed her friend "Ben" to France and thus giving Napoleon... Geass... With military genius and a supernatural ability... You have someone that could just be killed by revanchist Britannians through food poisoning by spies... and thus continues C.C.'s journey into the 20th century and meeting Lelouch... and meeting Mao in-between these times...

TO Sibirskaya: I'm actually not thinking of reviving the Russian-Polish union at first... but I saw that it will have its benefits... Just imagine Russia getting ahead in modernization.... Sweet!

TO Solroc: Asian history is wildly different this time around... depending what TL we're talking here... a TL without Russia and Rhomania... or a TL with it...