The American Battleship Revolution, 1906

It is NICE to have this board back, so many interesting things.
Here's a timeline I worked on some while ago, and slightly revised recently. Naturally, it features battleships at center stage :) as it throws a monkey wrench into the Great War buildup.

The American Battleship revolution, slightly revised

In the waning years of the 19th century, the United States navy was becoming a force to be reckoned with on the world stage—modern battleships were entering service as the nation flexed its industrial muscles. The US Navy was no threat to Britain or Germany at the time—the Royal Navy was huge, and Germany had no concerns in the Western Hemisphere—although some saw that that could change.
A brief dispute with Britain, although never threatening war, drove home the point to the US Navy that Britain ruled the seas. More to the point, Congress was also made aware of this fact.
Some serious planning was done—the US Navy would always be a second class fleet, unless something drastic was done. Naturally, it would have to be relatively inexpensive, given the tight fisted nature of the US Congress. Congress basically told the Naval Planners, “Do Something about the Royal Navy’s firepower—and Oh, Yes, please don’t spend more money than we’re already giving you…â€
(This seems like a typical politician’s attitude)
In 1899, the US Navy started work on the now infamous “12 inch Mark 7†as a part of its ongoing program to improve its weaponry. What it didn’t tell anyone was that the 12†Mark 7 was actually a 14â€/45—a weapon far larger and more powerful than any afloat at the time.
When the Connecticut class was being authorized in Congress, naval experts managed to convince Congress to allow the navy a larger displacement for its newest ships, in exchange for canceling two big armored cruisers also planned. This kept displacement—and costs—almost equal. The final changes were slipped into the appropriations bill quietly, in exchange for a “yes†vote on a few pork-barrel projects.
The new Connecticut class battleships were built in relative secrecy, although there were rumors that they represented something new. The intended displacement was not, of course, released.
When Connecticut and Louisiana were revealed to the world—8 14†guns in superfiring twin turrets, heavy armor, and a massive (for the time) displacement, they made every existing warship obsolete—and within a few months, there would be three more in service. (The fact that they displaced 1200 tons more than authorized was quietly hushed up—they were so successful that no one wanted to criticize them) The next generation was already well along, four ships armed with 10 of the new guns.
Unfortunately for the Royal Navy, this display occurred a week after HMS Dreadnought had made the scene, the upstart Americans making her obsolete mere days after she was seen as the greatest warship on earth. What the general public didn’t see was the advantage Dreadnought had due to her turbines—but even so, Connecticut was a shock to the Royal Navy—the four Connecticut class ships were thought to be equal in fighting power to 8 to 16 conventional battleships.
At the end of 1907, the US had 5 dreadnoughts (the name stuck due to Dreadnought’s dramatic presentation—and more dramatic overshadowing) with 1 fitting out, and two more nearing completion. Two more were in the early stages of construction—these two introducing the triple turret.
In 1907, only two battleships were authorized
Note that this is approximately the same amount of tonnage as historical through 1907’s authorizations, but in fewer, larger ships.

Britain naturally stepped up its production of Dreadnoughts, although the next four were armed with 12†guns, that being what could be built rapidly. (The last two had a gun layout similar to the historical Neptune, therefore being able to fire all 10 guns on either broadside.)
Armstrong hastily developed a 14†gun, simply scaling up the existing 12†weapon. Larger was desired, but the 14†weapon was the largest that could be rapidly (as these things go) developed.
The need for an emergency change caught Britain’s shipbuilding industry be surprise, and slowed down production of the next generation. Battlecruiser production, however, continued unchecked, as the 12†gun was far superior to the 10†gun on the American ships.
The 15†battleships came faster than historical, as the British attempted to jump ahead of the competition. Britain had 5 of them in August 1914, with 8 more on the ways.

Germany built the four Nassau’s as historical—the Kaiser was insistent that the High Seas Fleet have some of the new warships, and keeping some pace with Britain was necessary.
The Helgolands were significantly delayed, as even Wilhelm II realized that a bigger gun was needed. In the end, Germany paid a huge fortune to the USA for enough 14†guns for four ships. The USA accepted this offer for several reasons:
1. The US was already working on 16†guns, so the 14†guns would not be outclassed by America’s newest ships.
2. There was still some desire to keep Britian busy worrying about Germany
3. There was lots of money being offered—money the USN used to get an extra New Mexico class ship.
4. Since Argentina, Brazil, Chile, and the Ottoman Empire all had at least one new ship on order in American yards, it would seem almost hostile to turn away a paying customer.

These were the only German ships with imported weapons. The next class had 14†guns built in Germany.
The Kaisers had 14†guns, as did the Konig’s. (There were only 4 in each class, not 5 Kaisers as historical.)
One 15†Dreadnought was complete in August 1914.

The United States was content with a more modest pace of building after its sudden spurt—Congress was once again tight with funds, and the new ships were expensive. However, after the success of the 1899 program, the Vermont, and California class ships, Congress had become willing to set spending limits rather than displacement limits, and then OK the plans the experts put forth. The biggest winner was the Bureau of Ordnance, which could, in the eyes of Congress, do no wrong, and merely had to ask for money to get it—usually even more than it asked for.
Responding to intelligence reports of British “super-cruisers,†the USS Manila Bay was laid down in 1906, intended to overwhelm any likely cruiser. She was so expensive—and large—that she replaced two conventional armored cruisers in the building program. One of her design criteria was an extremely long range—something that didn’t show up in Jane’s.
She was largely considered a design fiasco due to her light armament compared to contemporary foreign ships, but proved to be a sound design, with plenty of room for modernization. Ironically, this “design fiasco†proved to be the longest serving battlecruiser in any navy, finally decommissioning to category B reserve in 1970, and, in 1982, moving to her permanent berth at Battleship Cove alongside the USS Massachusetts—3/4 of a century serving her nation.
She was one of the first American capital ships to use oil firing—a collision with the USS Montana put her in the dockyard for an extended time. Since she was out of service anyway, the navy decided to test the oil firing on a ship that was large, fast, but not able to stand up to her potential rivals in other navies.
Britain and Germany build numerous battlecruisers—overall similar to in OTL, but with a trend to bigger guns faster.

Battleship 1911 was huge by the standards of the time, mounting 8 of the new 16†guns—and also finally bringing the USA into the turbine age with their battleships. The American battle line was still notoriously slow, (most ships could make 20 knots, but foreign navies were doing 22 or more) and the American fleet was relatively small in numbers. However, no one doubted the overall firepower advantage the Americans had. As one Royal Navy analyst put it, while campaigning for more ships, “The American battleline is slow. All this means is that when it wants to go somewhere, it will take a while—but no fleet on Earth can stop it.â€
Another one said, “Our fleet can go anywhere it wants—unless the Americans are going there.â€

The superior ability of the USN to engage in long range battles, with 30 (later 40 to 45) degree elevation for their main armament and heavy deck armor was not revealed to the world until it proved a nasty surprise for the ships on the receiving end.

Where do we go from here? The USA starts with a huge edge in dreadnoughts, both numbers and power—and with a bureau of ordnance that is in very good favor with Congress. As war clouds gather in Europe, the US is feeling secure behind a mighty fleet that can keep even the Royal Navy from its shores.
Although Britain is not happy with the American naval buildup, the USA is not seen as the same threat Germany is. I’ve sketched out a program that assumes that things go much as historical politically—any changes will naturally grow with time. When does the political situation change—and how?


USS Connecticut, Commissioned 1906

Displacement: 23000 tons
Dimensions: 590 x 86 x 27’
Machinery: Vertical triple expansion, 18 knots, Range of 6000 nautical miles at 10 knots
Armor: Main belt 11â€, upper belt 3â€, Turret face 12â€, Conning Tower 12â€, deck 5†over vitals
Armament: 8 14â€/45’s in four twin turrets, 20 3†guns, 2 21†submerged torpedo tubes

Design note: Unlike contemporary battleships, Connecticut and her successors—and the Manila Bay and hers, had a main armament elevation of 30 degrees. The class was gradually upgraded over the years, the survivors being scrapped, converted to other uses, or sold in the 1930’s.

USS Manila Bay, Commissioned 1909

Displacement: 22000 tons normal
Dimensions: 620 x 86 x 27
Machinery: Turbines, 4 shafts, 25 knots, 12,000 nautical mile range at 10 knots (18000 miles after 1913 conversion to oil
Armor: Main belt 6.5â€, upper belt 2â€, Turret face 10â€, Conning Tower 12â€, deck 5†over vitals
Armament: 6 10†guns in three twin turrets, 8 x 4â€, 18 x 3â€, 4 x 21†submerged torpedo tubes.
Manila Bay was constantly upgraded—the first American capital ship to receive oil firing, flying off platforms for aeroplanes, fire control radar. She was almost a legend in the American Navy for the skill of her crew, her always being in the heat of the action, and always having the latest equipment—and always coming home.

Battleship Strengths, August 1914

Great Britain (32 + 12)

5 12†gun dreadnoughts
12 14†gun dreadnoughts
5+8 15†gun dreadnoughts
0+2 18†dreadnoughts

6 12†gun battlecruisers
3 14†battlecruisers
1+2 15†battlecruiser

+ 11)
4 11†dreadnoughts
12 14†dreadnoughts
1+5 15†dreadnought

3 11†battlecruisers
1+2 14†battlecruiser
0+4 15†battlecruisers

USA (17 + 10)

12 14†dreadnoughts
(4 with AON armor)
2 +6 16†dreadnoughts
0 +2 18†dreadnoughts

1 10†battlecruiser
2+1 14†battlecruisers
0+1 16†battlecruiser
 
Actually, I think that the British will respond by adopting a larger caliber faster than in OTL. Perhaps HMS Dreadnought is launched with 12in guns, but I wouldn't be surprised to see Vickers-Armstrong showing up quickly with either 13.5in or 14in guns in time for the second class of British dreadnoughts. The respond very well to any sort of technological challenge, like the Gloire back in the 1860s.

Or it is entirely likely that Fisher will pull a fantastic rabbit out of his hat that will nullify the battleship.
 
Guns already in the pipeline

Vickers-Srmstrong is very good, and could have a 13.5" or 14" gun in a very short time.
Dreadnought is already in service when the Conneticuts show up, and more are on the ways. I'd expect a few 12" ships to be built, simply because they can be got into service fast. (Guns and turrets are one of the longest lead time items, and there's 12" guns and turrets in huge numbers already partly built.)
Thus, only 5 total 12" dreadnoughts for Britain.
Could the Royal Navy stand to let Germany build her 4 11" gun ships without a reply. Militarily, yes--politically, no, IMHO.
How does this wild card influence the 1906 to 1014 arms race and slide towards war? It is glareingly obvious that to have the US as an enemy in addition to Germany/Britain is to be seriously outgunned.
Would Britain try to get closer to either the US or Germany?
 
A likely stopgap measure for the British would be for them to purchase the Brazilian dreadnoughts Minas Gerais and Sao Paulo giving them a two ship advantage. Dreadnought plans will be quickly retooled, so I doubt that any beyond Dreadnought itself will be brought on line with 12in guns. I would suspect the follow up class would be delayed until the 13.5in can be developed. I also would consider that the 15in gun would be seen entering service much earlier, with the likes of the Queen Elizabeth and Revenge class mounting the 16in gun.

"Could the Royal Navy stand to let Germany build her 4 11" gun ships without a reply. Militarily, yes--politically, no, IMHO."

Politically they can, since they can justify it. Why build second class dreadnoughts? Theres no reason to doubt that the Germans may also introduce a larger caliber also. Trying to remain realistic about this whole scenario, the Germans would retool their gun plan when the USS Connecticut hits the water.

Germany remains the immediate threat. Relations between the US and Britain may be strained but they are never strained for long or to the breaking point.

I also think that the quick jump in expenses will cause the British to look at other alternatives to the capital ship - which was what Fisher was trying to do all along. I could see increased development in the submarine.
 
Brazilian dreadnoughts, and other things

The Brazilian ships were laid down in April 1907. Would they even be ordered from Britain, when the US has a superior product? (at least as far as the relatively unifnformed see it.)
Considering Dreadnought's secrecy, I doubt the Brazil ordered their ships until AFTER Dreadnought was shown to the world.
Belerophon was laid down within weeks of Dreadnought's comissioning, and Temeraire the next month. I'd expect these two to be completed, and later used as second class battleships on foreign stations.
Perhaps all the 12" guns on order get put into Fisher's battlecruisers. Instead of the 6 12" BC's, we have 10? After all, they'll eat the American and German BC's for lunch...
I don't thnk Fisher could make the battleship obsolete, the technology wasn't there yet. Fisher would probably be relatively confident-his creations are far faster than the American ships with their VTE engines, and he believed that speed is armor.
Incidently, the Great White Fleet will be led by a pair of Dreadnoughts. This is almost a necessity, since some of the ships that participated in the cruise in OTL are still being completed as dreadnoughts.
 
The Brazilians warships were ordered in Britain in 1905 under their original design of 12-10in guns. Completion of HMS Dreadnought in December 1906 caused them to halt construction. New plans were prepared by February 1907 and the ships laid down in April.

Sorry, taking the example of the Minas Gerais as a template, the Bellerophon would most likely be retooled. The ship is going to obsolete by the time the deck is laid down. I would suggest that Bellerophon would be redesigned to permit a 10 gun broadside, probably something close to HMS Hercules/Colossus in layout. The 12in gun has been trounched as an effective weapon. Armstrong was offering Brazilian warships plans with 16in guns as early as 1911. Its possible that one could see the Orion class launched with 10 16in guns.

Second class battleships are not part of Britain's overall strategy post-1905, Fisher saw to that.
 
David S Poepoe said:
The Brazilians warships were ordered in Britain in 1905 under their original design of 12-10in guns. Completion of HMS Dreadnought in December 1906 caused them to halt construction. New plans were prepared by February 1907 and the ships laid down in April.

Sorry, taking the example of the Minas Gerais as a template, the Bellerophon would most likely be retooled. The ship is going to obsolete by the time the deck is laid down. I would suggest that Bellerophon would be redesigned to permit a 10 gun broadside, probably something close to HMS Hercules/Colossus in layout. The 12in gun has been trounched as an effective weapon. Armstrong was offering Brazilian warships plans with 16in guns as early as 1911. Its possible that one could see the Orion class launched with 10 16in guns.

Second class battleships are not part of Britain's overall strategy post-1905, Fisher saw to that.

Probably have the Bellerophon class kept at 3, redesigned with a 10 gun layout, yes, and her follow-ons would probably mount 14" or 15" guns, most likely 15" as the RN, whenever one-upped, always increased to a calibre greater, when Germans went to 12", they went to 13.5", when Germans went to 13.8", RN was already at 15".

We could probably have RN ships in commision with 16", or 16.5" guns in 1912, and maybe Fisher gets his 20"ers? but not on battlecruisers, say an 8-gun broadside of 20"ers, as a reply to American 18" battleships.
 
Makes sence

Aye--Belerphon and her sisters with a 10 gun broadside makes sence. Armstrong will certainly be able to get good guns into service in a hurry, but there wil still be a delay in the RN's building.
In a way more important than the nuts and bolts, what are the political ramifications going to be?
 
I think a delay of 1-2 years would do the Royal Navy a world of good. It will at least keep them from punching out the 'cookie cutter' repeats of the Dreadnought (Bellerophon & St. Vincent classes). It would probably give Parliament some breathing room a get their budgetary house in financial shape for the expensive ships to come.

Here's my immediate take on Royal Navy ship construction, staying true to OTL but keeping in mind the escalation in gun calibers.

Battleships

Dreadnought – 1
10-12in guns

Bellerophon class – 3
10-13.5in guns
-Layout as OTL HMS Hercules. Small tube boilers adopted.

St. Vincent class – 3
10-13.5in guns
-Layout as OTL HMS Orion

Hercules class – 3
Hercules, Colossus, Neptune
10-14in guns
-Layout as OTL HMS Orion

Orion class – 4
10-15in or 12-14in
-Armament could be 10-15 (5x2) or 12-14in (6x2) in a layout similar to Wyoming and Ise. Oil fired.

King George V class – 4
10-15in or 8-15in guns
-Tracing the line of development this class could go several ways. All oil fired.
A) 10-15in (5x2), a repeat of the Orions.
B) 10-15in (2x3, 2x2) RN finally adopts the triple turret. Position of abandoned ‘Q’ turret filled by boilers.
C) 8-15in (4x2) similar to B, now KGV is TTLs Queen Elizabeth class fast battleships.

Iron Duke class – 4
10-15in or 12-15in guns
-Possible repeat of the KGV class, thereby the RN has two squadrons of fast battleships. Adoption of the triple turret permits 12-15in (4x3). Oil fired

Queen Elizabeth class – 5
8-16in guns
Oil fired.

Revenge class – 5
8-16in or 10-16in guns
-Repeat and improved QE class or speed sacrificed for addition turret thereby 10-16in (5x2).
Oil fired.


Battlecruisers

Invincible class – 3
8-12in guns
-Armament in centerline superimposed turrets.

Indefatigable class – 3
8-13.5in
-Layout as OTL HMS Lion

Lion class – 2
8-14in
-Layout as OTL HMS Tiger. Oil fired.

Queen Mary – 1
8-14in
-Layout as OTL HMS Tiger. Oil fired.

Tiger – 1
8-15in
-Layout as OTL HMS Tiger. Oil fired.

Renown class – 2
6-16in guns

I really don't see the adoption of the 18in gun before the outbreak of the Great War.
 
NHBL said:
The Brazilian ships were laid down in April 1907. Would they even be ordered from Britain, when the US has a superior product? (at least as far as the relatively unifnformed see it.)

They would be ordered from Britain, because the loan that financed the battleship order came from Britain(Rotschild, IIRC). There was no way the British would allow the money to be spent on the shipyards of another country. Unless, of course, the loan comes from somewhere else(hard, given the way the Brazilian economy was tied to Britain during that time).

BTW, why the British would use 14-inch guns? Even though they built those guns, it was an export gun. HMS Canada only used them because it was built for Chile.

Probably have the Bellerophon class kept at 3, redesigned with a 10 gun layout, yes, and her follow-ons would probably mount 14" or 15" guns, most likely 15" as the RN, whenever one-upped, always increased to a calibre greater, when Germans went to 12", they went to 13.5", when Germans went to 13.8", RN was already at 15".

Actually, the Germans went from 12" to 15", and that decision predates the RN jump to 15". The British only went to 15" guns when they discovered the newest German battleship would have them. However, British shipyards were faster than German ones.
 
"BTW, why the British would use 14-inch guns? Even though they built those guns, it was an export gun. HMS Canada only used them because it was built for Chile."

Good question. Availability is one immediate reply. The British certainly could have used the 14in gun if they chose to (particularly if the 15in is available yet). The WI has set the 14in gun as the standard. The adoption of the 13.5in and the 14in represent more stopgap approaches to arming warships, until the 15in is perfected.

I don't quite see too many Germany 11in guns going to sea. Most likely the bulk of the High Seas Fleet will be 12in, 13.8 and 15in by the time of Jutland. However, since German construction is regulated by the Navy Laws we have a fairly good idea that, much like the British, gun calibers will increase with each successive class.

On the average 12in gun dreadnoughts will be the minority. The dreadnought race will probably be stalled for 2-3 years in other countries while something like a 14in will be developed.
 
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