I have my ruff sketch for an alternate WNT, does anyone know what were the planned or likely names for ships 11 - 16 in Japan's 8-8 series. In this ATL they get to complete them. Don't worry we get 2 versions of the Tillmans.
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Japanese provincial names and BBs
A couple of names floated for the last 2 vessels of the 'Kii' class were 'Suruga' and 'Omi'. No names were ever assigned to the No.13 class. Japanese battleships were named after the ancient provinces of Japan. Best bet is to get a list of provinces. Fortunately I have some here that I found a while back, hope it is useful.
JAPANESE PROVINCES (Pre-1860)
Kinai "Home Provinces"
(Area between Osaka shoreline and Lake Biwa)
Yamashiro
Yamato
Kawachi
Izumi
Settsu
Hokurikudo "Northern Land Road"
(Northeastern Strip of Honshu)
Wakasa
Echizen
Kaga
Noto
Etchu
Sado
Echigo
Tosando "Eastern Mountain Road"
(Central and Northern Portion of Honshu)
Mino
Hida
Shinano
Kozuke
Shimozuke
Mutsu*
Dewa*
Omi
Sanindo "Shady Mountain Road"
(Northern Coast of Western Honshu)
Tamba
Tango
Tajima
Inaba
Hoki
Izumu
Iwami
Oki
Tokaido "Eastern Sea Road"
(Southeastern edge of Honshu)
Iga
Ise
Shima
Owari
Mikawa
Totomi
Suruga
Kai
Izu
Sagami
Musashi
Awa
Kazusa
Shimosa
Hitachi
Saikaido "Western Sea Road"
(Kyushu and outlying islands)
Chikuzen
Chikugo
Buzen
Bungo
Hizen
Higo
Hyuga
Osumi
Satsuma
Iki
Tsushima
Sanyodo "Sunny Mountain Road"
(Southern coastal line of Western Honshu)
Harima
Mimasaka
Bizen
Bitchu
Bingu
Aki
Suo
Nagato
Nankaido "Southern Sea Road"
(Island of Shikoku and part of Honshu Coast South of Kinai)
Kii
Awaji
Awa
Sanuki
Iyo
Tosa
*Provinces of Mutsu and Dewa composed of even smaller, earlier provinces.
Mutsu: Iwaki, Iwashiro, Rikuzen, Rikuchu
Dewa: Uzen, Ugo, Rikuoku
Southern tip of Hokkaido has earlier province of Yezo
There are two provinces named "Awa".
Please bear in mind that some provincial names may not be considered suitable for naming for various reasons, such as auspiciousness, previous ships that still exist with the name (such as some pre-dreadnoughts) and other considerations. If in doubt, look up older ships that have been scrapped and did not have unlucky things happen to them, and use those.
Sargon
P.S. Yes, I know 'Fuso' is mssing from the list, this is due to it not being a province, instead it is an old name for Japan meaning "Land of Divine Mulberry Trees" . Also the 'Kongo' class were BCs and so were named after mountains not provinces, except for 'Kongo' herself, the name of which had Buddhist meanings.
A couple of names floated for the last 2 vessels of the 'Kii' class were 'Suruga' and 'Omi'. No names were ever assigned to the No.13 class. Japanese battleships were named after the ancient provinces of Japan. Best bet is to get a list of provinces. Fortunately I have some here that I found a while back, hope it is useful.
JAPANESE PROVINCES (Pre-1860)
Kinai "Home Provinces"
(Area between Osaka shoreline and Lake Biwa)
Yamashiro
Yamato
Kawachi
Izumi
Settsu
Hokurikudo "Northern Land Road"
(Northeastern Strip of Honshu)
Wakasa
Echizen
Kaga
Noto
Etchu
Sado
Echigo
Tosando "Eastern Mountain Road"
(Central and Northern Portion of Honshu)
Mino
Hida
Shinano
Kozuke
Shimozuke
Mutsu*
Dewa*
Omi
Sanindo "Shady Mountain Road"
(Northern Coast of Western Honshu)
Tamba
Tango
Tajima
Inaba
Hoki
Izumu
Iwami
Oki
Tokaido "Eastern Sea Road"
(Southeastern edge of Honshu)
Iga
Ise
Shima
Owari
Mikawa
Totomi
Suruga
Kai
Izu
Sagami
Musashi
Awa
Kazusa
Shimosa
Hitachi
Saikaido "Western Sea Road"
(Kyushu and outlying islands)
Chikuzen
Chikugo
Buzen
Bungo
Hizen
Higo
Hyuga
Osumi
Satsuma
Iki
Tsushima
Sanyodo "Sunny Mountain Road"
(Southern coastal line of Western Honshu)
Harima
Mimasaka
Bizen
Bitchu
Bingu
Aki
Suo
Nagato
Nankaido "Southern Sea Road"
(Island of Shikoku and part of Honshu Coast South of Kinai)
Kii
Awaji
Awa
Sanuki
Iyo
Tosa
*Provinces of Mutsu and Dewa composed of even smaller, earlier provinces.
Mutsu: Iwaki, Iwashiro, Rikuzen, Rikuchu
Dewa: Uzen, Ugo, Rikuoku
Southern tip of Hokkaido has earlier province of Yezo
There are two provinces named "Awa".
Please bear in mind that some provincial names may not be considered suitable for naming for various reasons, such as auspiciousness, previous ships that still exist with the name (such as some pre-dreadnoughts) and other considerations. If in doubt, look up older ships that have been scrapped and did not have unlucky things happen to them, and use those.
Sargon
P.S. Yes, I know 'Fuso' is mssing from the list, this is due to it not being a province, instead it is an old name for Japan meaning "Land of Divine Mulberry Trees" . Also the 'Kongo' class were BCs and so were named after mountains not provinces, except for 'Kongo' herself, the name of which had Buddhist meanings.
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