Restoration of the Dutch Republic in the 19th century

MrHola

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So, how can we have a Dutch republic in the 19th century, post-Napoleon? I personally think king William III is a key figure, here. Let him behave like a bit more of an ass during, say, the Luxemburg Crisis to such an extent the Liberal majority in the Dutch parliament decides that enough is enough. Is this even possible? What would happen to Luxemburg? And Limburg?
 

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I think an easier way to get a restored Dutch Republic in the 19th century is to have Willem II not implement reforms in the face of the 1848 revolutions. From there, you are virtually assured that Dutch liberals will rise up-- and succeed -- to topple the old order. However, it is highly likely that the revolutionaries-- of successful-- would have soon faced foreign intervention.
 

freivolk

RightTosser said:
I think an easier way to get a restored Dutch Republic in the 19th century is to have Willem II not implement reforms in the face of the 1848 revolutions. From there, you are virtually assured that Dutch liberals will rise up-- and succeed -- to topple the old order. However, it is highly likely that the revolutionaries-- of successful-- would have soon faced foreign intervention.
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I doubt there will be a foreign intervention. Britain and France will not allow the eastern powers (especially Russia) to meddle in the internal affaires of the Netherlands. But a successful revolution will mean, that Luxemburg will get separated earlier from the Netherlands and so will likely become part of a United Germany.
 

yourworstnightmare

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freivolk said:
I doubt there will be a foreign intervention. Britain and France will not allow the eastern powers (especially Russia) to meddle in the internal affaires of the Netherlands. But a successful revolution will mean, that Luxemburg will get separated earlier from the Netherlands and so will likely become part of a United Germany.
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What about Limburg? Was it at this point already considered an integral part of the Netherlands.
 

HJ Tulp

I have to agree with the 1848 option. Another one could be the House of Oranje dieing out as it nearly did at the end.
 

wietze

yes, especially the bad manners of william3 gave the house of orange a really bad reputation.
them going extinct is a far more likely than the 1848, william2 might have been an idiot, but he did have a keen sense of self-preservation.
what is possible is that William2 dies a year early (maybe because of the shock of the death of his son?) and have William3 be in power during the troubles, william3 being the pompous moron that he was would not have switched as easy as W2.
 
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HJ Tulp

wietze said:
yes, especially the bad manners of william3 gave the house of orange a really bad reputation.
them going extinct is a far more likely than the 1848, william2 might have been an idiot, but he did have a keen sense of self-preservation.
what is possible is that William2 dies a year early (maybe because of the shock of the death of his son?) and have William3 be in power during the troubles, william3 being the pompous moron that he was would not have switched as easy as W2.
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Voila. William III was not happy with the Constitution of 1848.
 
Opunium

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Have William III fail to have a surviving child and you have a Dutch Republic!

Also William II wasnt as easy going as you think, it is just that parliamentarians blackmailed him with his homosexual relationships.
 

wietze

Opunium said:
Also William II wasnt as easy going as you think, it is just that parliamentarians blackmailed him with his homosexual relationships.
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that pretty much happened during his entire career.

it is my impression that he simply was worried he might end up doing a Louis XVI if revolution came to the netherllands, plus he probably also got a shock from his son dying at 29 just shortly before this happened. so probably didn't want to fight (after all he died a year later)
 
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