WI: James III/VIII, 'the Old Pretender', is born a girl?

Does the glorious revolution still happen? People are still peeved about James' religion, but his properly Protestant elder daughters haven't been superseded. Will people just quietly chafe and wait for James to die so Mary (and William?- would he have been co-king if Mary inherited the throne) to ascend the throne?

Now a scatter-gun of mildly relevant questions
If James II isn't deposed at the birth of his daughter (name? Elizabeth like her aunt? Is Henrietta too French?), but has a son a few years later will we see something like the Glorious Revolution, or will James be better established/more willing to fight?

If James is forced out of the country in 1688, Jacobitism would be dead in the water with only a female heir, right?

In an England ruled over by her sisters, what are *Elizabeth's prospects? Presumably a loyal and staunchly Protestant tutor, but marriages and stuff?
 
Does the glorious revolution still happen? People are still peeved about James' religion, but his properly Protestant elder daughters haven't been superseded. Will people just quietly chafe and wait for James to die so Mary (and William?- would he have been co-king if Mary inherited the throne) to ascend the throne?

Now a scatter-gun of mildly relevant questions
If James II isn't deposed at the birth of his daughter (name? Elizabeth like her aunt? Is Henrietta too French?), but has a son a few years later will we see something like the Glorious Revolution, or will James be better established/more willing to fight?

If James is forced out of the country in 1688, Jacobitism would be dead in the water with only a female heir, right?

In an England ruled over by her sisters, what are *Elizabeth's prospects? Presumably a loyal and staunchly Protestant tutor, but marriages and stuff?

Jacobitism survives in any case. Mary and Anne didn't have surviving children, nor did William. Any child of James instantly has a better claim than a distant Hanoverian. And if James marries his "daughter" to one of the grandsons of Louis XIV...well.

In addition there's a far better chance of any daughter in exile in France remaining close to the French court (just as in OTL JFES and his sister Louisa did) since Louis XIV wouldn't proclaim any younger daughter "Queen of England" immediately after James II's death as he did for James's son which really P.O.ed the English and made then insistent that Louis not only abjure the claims of the Stuarts in the "War of the Spanish Succession" peace but had to exile JFES from France as well.
 
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Jacobitism survives in any case. Mary and Anne didn't have surviving children, nor did William. Any child of James instantly has a better claim than a distant Hanoverian. And if James marries his "daughter" to one of the grandsons of Louis XIV...well.

Fair enough, I had some vague conception of the illness that caused Anne's son William Duke of Gloucester death being butterflied away, but his health appears fragile anyhow.
 
I think you might still see the Glorious Revolution or at least an attempt. James was trying to entrench his power as rapidly as possible by replacing the Officers of the Army, the Bishops of the C of E and local government (Lord Lieutenant and High Sheriffs) with loyal Catholics (he'd already filled the transformed central government). The plotters (The Immortal Seven) were well aware that their window of opportunity was closing and that if they held off too long their chances of success would deteriorate. The birth of James III was a perfect for them as it convinced waverers that they couldn't simply wait out James II but had to act. Even without that impetus I think they would still launch an attempt but it would have less support and might fail.
 
Does the glorious revolution still happen? People are still peeved about James' religion, but his properly Protestant elder daughters haven't been superseded. Will people just quietly chafe and wait for James to die so Mary (and William?- would he have been co-king if Mary inherited the throne) to ascend the throne?

Note also that Mary predeceased James OTl. So by James' death William might be completely out of it. He is the son of James' sister so he has a claim...

If James II isn't deposed at the birth of his daughter, but has a son a few years later will we see something like the Glorious Revolution, or will James be better established/more willing to fight?

James may be both better entrenched and more unpopular.

But there's another issue. If no Glorious Revolution in 1688, then England doesn't join the anti-French coalition in the War of the League of Augsburg. The Netherlands has to resist France without English aid; James may even renew the Anglo-French alliance against the Netherlands. William may not survive the storm. In which case a later GR is going to be much harder.

In an England ruled over by her sisters, what are *Elizabeth's prospects? Presumably a loyal and staunchly Protestant tutor, but marriages and stuff?

If deaths occur as OTL, Mary dies in 1694, and James dies in 1701. Anne succeeds. Elizabeth will be 13. She's been raised Catholic. Possibly her father may have betrothed her to a Catholic husband. But I don't think he'd send her out of the country.

Anne is Protestant; there will be pressure to convert Elizabeth to Protestant, and marry her to a Protestant prince. That prince is a potential quasi-king. Anne's only surviving baby has died in 1700. William of Orange is still next in line until he dies in 1702; then come the Hanoverians. That is, if there is an Act of Settlement excluding Catholics.

Which leads me to another thought. If James reigns until his death, he is going to try to cement a Catholic succession, and may try to impose a succession law excluding Mary and Anne.

That might provoke a Protestant rebellion.
 
Note also that Mary predeceased James OTl. So by James' death William might be completely out of it. He is the son of James' sister so he has a claim...


Mary died of smallpox. If she's not in England in 1694 she probably doesn't catch it - at least not then. She could live on as long as her sister Anne.

Could be good news for William too, as his horse may well never trip over that molehill.
 
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