John of Austria as King of Spain

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How would Charles V's illegitimate son, John of Austria be able to obtain the Spanish throne? And what would his reign be like contrasted to Philip III or even Philip II should the latter not come to the throne/died soon after coming to power?
 
I can't imagine how he could have become king, but I imagine he would have been much more actively anti-Ottoman than Phillip III/II.
 
I have not the slightest idea if it is plausible or not. But I mused once with the idea of Philip II dying in a hunting accident in the 1560s, leading to his nut-so first child, Don Carlos, becoming a king of the Caligula variety. Eventually the nobility gets sick of him and pushes John of Austria into leading an army to depose him, either claiming the throne for himself or more likely in the name of his niece Maria of Austria.

(It is said that when Don Carlos visited Charles V in his retirement at Yuste monastery, Charles was so appalled he called him "a disgrace to these kingdoms".)
 
How would Charles V's illegitimate son, John of Austria be able to obtain the Spanish throne? And what would his reign be like contrasted to Philip III or even Philip II should the latter not come to the throne/died soon after coming to power?

No way, to my opinion.

If ever Philip II's line had become extinct, in that time it was Maximilian I of the Holy roman empire (Charles V's younger brother) or on of his many sons who would become king of Spain. Remember that among the 2 brothers, it was Maximilian who had been raised in Spain by his grandfather Fernando of Aragon, while Charles V was raised in the low countries. Maximilian Stoke castilan.
 
It would be interesting if possible - John of Austria comes across as marginally more competent than the rest of the Spanish Hapsburgs. But the thing is, there were so many of them that were legitimate and could get together some support. And then there's the Austrian Hapsburgs.

Maybe Charles V, being the Emperor, creates a kingdom for John of Austria somewhere in Germany - that certainly is not going to happen in Spain, but somewhere in the Empire might happen. I'm not sure if that can "legitimize" him enough that, if enough legitimate candidates die prematurely, he might be picked as King of Spain.
 
No way, to my opinion.

If ever Philip II's line had become extinct, in that time it was Maximilian I of the Holy roman empire (Charles V's younger brother) or on of his many sons who would become king of Spain. Remember that among the 2 brothers, it was Maximilian who had been raised in Spain by his grandfather Fernando of Aragon, while Charles V was raised in the low countries. Maximilian Stoke castilan.

I think you're mistaking Ferdinand with his paternal grandfather Maximilian I and his own son Maximilian II.
I agree, that his line would inherit the Spanish Kingdoms.

Maybe, perhaps John is the favourite, Charles or Philip arrange that John can inherit the Burgundian Inheritance or the duchy of Milan, but I can't see him getting any more than that.
 

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John as king of the Netherlands would be fascinating to see. Any ideas on what his policies might be like?
 
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