WI: Ancestors of Tausug people went to inland Agusan Valley

ramones1986

ramones1986

The Butuanon and Tausug languages were closely-related; after all, they belong to the same branch of the Visayan language group, the southern group. According to A. Kemp Pallesen's Culture Contact and Language Convergence (through this post), the Tausugs of Sulu Archipelago were descendants of intermarriages between Sama merchants and Butuanon-speaking women. On the other hand, according to the other sources (J.T. Peralta, William Henry Scott & Dr. Robert Fox), Tausug people were basically migrants from the Butuan area around 11 AD (as my source believed).

So, here's the question: what if the ancestors of Tausug people decided to go inland deep in the Agusan Valley instead of going to Sulu Archipelago, as suggested by the second theory? What would their relationship with the local Manobo clans that they've encountered? How it would affect the history of both Sulu Archipelago and Agusan Valley?
 

mlp

(you should realise, not all of us are from the Philippines. :p)
My guess is that with the Tausug language(which seems to have served the purpose of making trade easier as it was the main language used in the southern half of the Philippine archipelago) going deeper into the valley, another language would have taken its place for mercantile purposes, possibly from other parts of mindanao or maybe even brunei.
 
kasumigenx

kasumigenx

ramones1986 said:
The Butuanon and Tausug languages were closely-related; after all, they belong to the same branch of the Visayan language group, the southern group. According to A. Kemp Pallesen's Culture Contact and Language Convergence (through this post), the Tausugs of Sulu Archipelago were descendants of intermarriages between Sama merchants and Butuanon-speaking women. On the other hand, according to the other sources (J.T. Peralta, William Henry Scott & Dr. Robert Fox), Tausug people were basically migrants from the Butuan area around 11 AD (as my source believed).

So, here's the question: what if the ancestors of Tausug people decided to go inland deep in the Agusan Valley instead of going to Sulu Archipelago, as suggested by the second theory? What would their relationship with the local Manobo clans that they've encountered? How it would affect the history of both Sulu Archipelago and Agusan Valley?
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Tausugs and Cebuano mean the same thing - People of the Wave, I think there is a possibility that Visayans could be called Suluk or Sulu instead.

There is also a possibility that Visayans could be called Tausugs if the Visayans are united by the Tausugs.
 
The Forty-Eighth Rōnin

The Forty-Eighth Rōnin

Would they still become Muslims? If so, then whatever sultanate they establish there might become more powerful than OTL Sulu ever were. Agusan has a lot more resources than the Sulu Archipelago (especially those mineral deposits).
 
ramones1986

ramones1986

Captain Orange said:
Would they still become Muslims? If so, then whatever sultanate they establish there might become more powerful than OTL Sulu ever were. Agusan has a lot more resources than the Sulu Archipelago (especially those mineral deposits).
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Maybe we expect a different version of Sulu Sultanate, which is a Sama/Bajau-wank.

For the ATL Tausug, maybe they would follow a syncrethic mix of animism and Hinduism, at least before the Spanish colonization.
 
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kasumigenx

kasumigenx

ramones1986 said:
Maybe we expect a different version of Sulu Sultanate, which is a Sama/Bajau-wank.

For the ATL Tausug, maybe they would follow a syncrethic mix of animism and Hinduism, at least before the Spanish colonization.
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The speakers of Tausug are called as Buranun, the subjects of Sultanate of Sulu are the ones called as Tausugs.
 
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