Keeping Islam in Arabian Peninsula

Alright I know this might be impossible, but what would be needed for Islam to be contained to the Arabian Peninsula and considered a regional religion much Zoroastrianism and Hinduism are regional to Iran and India. How would this affect the Levant,North Africa,African Horn,Iran,Turkey,Indonesia and Malaysia?
 
Alright I know this might be impossible, but what would be needed for Islam to be contained to the Arabian Peninsula and considered a regional religion much Zoroastrianism and Hinduism are regional to Iran and India. How would this affect the Levant,North Africa,African Horn,Iran,Turkey,Indonesia and Malaysia?

North Africa will be Christian. African Horn will be Christian. Levant could go either way. Indonesia and Malaysia would likely go Buddhist. Asia Minor would REMAIN Christian. You'd likely see greater swells of Christianity of the Nestorian variety through central Asia from the upper Levant all the way to western China.
 
Alright I know this might be impossible, but what would be needed for Islam to be contained to the Arabian Peninsula and considered a regional religion much Zoroastrianism and Hinduism are regional to Iran and India?


It's pretty simple: the Prophet of Islam dies in the subjugation of the polytheists of the Peninsula or shortly thereafter. While his relatives were fervent enough to keep conquering even after his death, it's unlikely that they would have had the same drive if had lacked of the itme for make a plan for future spreading of Islam. That, or the Sasanids and Byzantines decide to team up and push the Islamic invaders back, but it's a lot more unlikely

How would this affect the Levant, North Africa, African Horn, Iran, Turkey, Indonesia and Malaysia?

The Levant may stay Christian indefinitely, which, aside from cancelling the Crusades (barring major heresies in the area) and thus butterflying away or procrastinating the rise of Italian Marinary Republics and making the Fourth Crusade merely an European pillage of Costantiople in the name of money and land (as it was IOTL, but this time with an explicit intent).

A Christian North Africa will obviously make so that Sicily will get invaded only by the Normans, and make Charles V's efforts against Barbary Pirates something of a fight just against pirate states because they were pirate states (as opposed to states inhabited by heathens).

The Africa Horn sounds like a place where the Coptic Church will thrive and spread around. If the Scramble for Africa will ever come, I think that there would be lots of Ethiopias around :p

Iran will stay Zoroastrian and put. You may see the occasional Madzakist or Manicheian dynasty/state, but otherwise they will stay so.

Turkey will be either fragmented after the inevitable all of the Byzantines, or remain united under one flag of a Christian equivalent of the Ottomans.

I don't know enough about Malaysia and Indonesia for have an informed opinion on the subject.
 

jahenders

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I agree -- it could have been limited quite easily.

Either Mohammed dies fairly early in the process, his successors fracture (essentially a civil war), other Arabic tribes stopped Mohammed's tribe from gaining superiority, some combination of neighboring states stop expansion, or the Mongols destroy the Muslim core in the 1200s. Any of the early ones would greatly limit Islam's spread, while the latter would fracture the Islamic community, weaken its influence, and probably lead to lots of factions (as well as more susceptibility to other religions spreading).

It's pretty simple: the Prophet of Islam dies in the subjugation of the polytheists of the Peninsula or shortly thereafter. While his relatives were fervent enough to keep conquering even after his death, it's unlikely that they would have had the same drive if had lacked of the itme for make a plan for future spreading of Islam. That, or the Sasanids and Byzantines decide to team up and push the Islamic invaders back, but it's a lot more unlikely
 
The problem it's a response to Roman corruption so immense Constantine called himself the 13th Apostle and, if you think about it, twisted a peace-monger's religion to war, each of the many times Christian Roman Emperors started a war. And by the 7th century, that was small hat.

Won't somebody just pick it up later another if Mohammed died stillborn? Like the American Revolution without Sam Adams; wasn't it still inevitable?
 
It's pretty simple: the Prophet of Islam dies in the subjugation of the polytheists of the Peninsula or shortly thereafter. While his relatives were fervent enough to keep conquering even after his death, it's unlikely that they would have had the same drive if had lacked of the itme for make a plan for future spreading of Islam. That, or the Sasanids and Byzantines decide to team up and push the Islamic invaders back, but it's a lot more unlikely



The Levant may stay Christian indefinitely, which, aside from cancelling the Crusades (barring major heresies in the area) and thus butterflying away or procrastinating the rise of Italian Marinary Republics and making the Fourth Crusade merely an European pillage of Costantiople in the name of money and land (as it was IOTL, but this time with an explicit intent).

A Christian North Africa will obviously make so that Sicily will get invaded only by the Normans, and make Charles V's efforts against Barbary Pirates something of a fight just against pirate states because they were pirate states (as opposed to states inhabited by heathens).

The Africa Horn sounds like a place where the Coptic Church will thrive and spread around. If the Scramble for Africa will ever come, I think that there would be lots of Ethiopias around :p

Iran will stay Zoroastrian and put. You may see the occasional Madzakist or Manicheian dynasty/state, but otherwise they will stay so.

Turkey will be either fragmented after the inevitable all of the Byzantines, or remain united under one flag of a Christian equivalent of the Ottomans.

I don't know enough about Malaysia and Indonesia for have an informed opinion on the subject.

Someone explain to this man the meaning of butterflies and all other things I'm too tired to explain myself.
 
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